English forums RSS - Parkour.NET English languages forums section of Parkour.NET http://parkour.net/ Tue, 13 May 2008 15:55:10 +0200 30 Going To Paris! http://parkour.net/Paris-t1030.html
I'm originally a traceur from Singapore, but i've been living in The Netherlands for over a year. I had an account here on parkour.net but i've been inactive for a while, so for some reason i had to register again.

Thing is, i'm visiting Paris next month (from 19th to 25th June) and i wanted to visit places like Lisses, and at the same time i would appreciate meeting up with traceurs who could show me around. If there happens to be an organised jam at that time, i really would like to join too.

I havn't trained in a while and i could really use some tips too. Hopefully this trip to the roots of Le Parkour will reignite my passion and spur me to carry on and move up to greater heights.

Hope to hear from someone soon!


Gaffar

p.s. I don't speak French, and i doubt the precision of Babelfish, so if someone could translate this for me to post in the French forums, i would really appreciate that as well smile.gif]]> Tue, 13 May 2008 13:14:09 +0200 http://parkour.net/Paris-t1030.html parkour in Regina, SK http://parkour.net/parkour-Regina-SK-t1027.html Tue, 13 May 2008 02:37:27 +0200 http://parkour.net/parkour-Regina-SK-t1027.html Hamstrings http://parkour.net/Hamstrings-t1025.html thanks for any comments]]> Mon, 12 May 2008 17:52:29 +0200 http://parkour.net/Hamstrings-t1025.html Shoulder Pain...Lower back pain http://parkour.net/Shoulder-Pain-Lower-pain-t1023.html
For 5 months now, I have been feeling lower back pain and shoulder pain.

Lower back pain: Generally, it feels like great stiffness and sometimes some pinching points add to it. When I do my stretching before my training, at some point I feel my back cracking (like when you crack your fingers) and from then, my pain is releived until the end of my training. but then, the next day, it hurts again. Am I experiencing normal back pain? And does anyone know how to get rid of it? (I know it is the most controversial injury, but has anyone ever experienced it and healed from it? How?)

Shoulder Pain: I have been feeling it for about 4 months now. I started feeling it just a little bit at the end of every training 4 months ago, but in the last month, it kept getting worse and worse. Now, when I lift up my shoulder more than 100 degrees (straight up would be 180 degrees) I just cannot go any higher because it hurts too much. The pain is not the same kind of pain as stretching a muscle too far. It is just a very acute pain that keeps me from going any higher, no matter how much will I put into going higher. If you look at the picture I attached to my post, the pain feels right between the Clavicle and the Acromion. Does anyone have any idea what it could be? and how to fix it? If the only way to fix it is to stop training and to wait for it to heal by itself, can you please give me some advice on how to keep training the rest of my body (because I do not wanna lose the strenght and endurance I built up so carefully)?

People alway say to go to the doctor if the pain continues or worsens, but I do not want to go to the doctor, because all the doctor in my area are incompetent (There is a lack of workers so the standards are lowered a lot). What are my options?

If you guys don't get what my answers are, please say so

Thanks for your help
Max]]> Mon, 12 May 2008 15:50:35 +0200 http://parkour.net/Shoulder-Pain-Lower-pain-t1023.html Parkour: Rehabilitating Human Movemet http://parkour.net/Parkour-Rehabilitating-Human-Movemet-t1005.html By Max Calder



Over the last few days I visited the zoo to observe the different primates moving, hoping to learn something from them I could apply to my training. I particularly found the Siamang apes and the Chinese monkeys (I cant remember the name of the species) the most interesting because I saw them playing. They moved and explored their environment, they play fought, they chased each other this was their training. I watched a young monkey stare down a jump to a piece of rope, this was challenging obstacle for it because it took a few seconds to concentrate before jumping. It jumped landed overshot and almost flipped over but was able to save itself from injury by twisting in mid air and landing on its feet. This was him learning.
The more mature monkeys had a sense or an aura of comfort in their movements, they seem 100% confident in their movements, and they too played. Although not as much as the young monkeys, but they still played and moved. And in nature they apply the knowledge learned by playing in order to survive and live.

Now we as humans have a social stigma about playing, we believe it to be immature or not proper for adults to do. So around the preteen age most humans stop playing and thus stop moving, with the exception of basic bi pedal movement (walking, running). Take the average human and ask them to do any movement other than walking and it will seem rather awkward if not impossible for them to do, even their walking is sometimes questionable. They do not have the Aura of comfort I talked about earlier.

I have only trained with only one person who had over 10 years training in parkour and that was David Belle at the New Yorker event. When I watched his movements he had the same aura of comfort about him, he seemed to float over the smallest things with 100% confidence. This was far more impressive to me than the big jump he did at the top of two 20 foot towers. The fact that he possessed something I had only seen animals in nature have was very amazing to me, and this inspired me greatly.

David has been training for about 20 years; this is the age when humans reach maturity. So by this standard he is mature in his movements, most of us reading this are still only children in terms of movement. So this brings us to my next point.



Rehabilitate: Verb)
A: To restore to a condition of good health, ability to work, or the like.
B: To restore to good condition, operation, or management, as a bankrupt business.


Now whenever someone is unable to move for a period of time, usually due to injury, they must go through a rehabilitation process to relearn how to perform basic motor functions.
Say an athlete was unable to walk for several months due to an injury. Upon recovery he attempted to go full pace back into action the next day the likely outcome would be an injury. The athlete must slowly build back their strength before coming back to their previous state by doing various
exercises to bring them where they need to be to move safely and normally.

This is exactly why we as traceurs condition and drill movements, because it is in a sense rehabilitation. We were dormant from playing and natural human growth so we must ease back into it slowly and safely to restrengthen ourselves physically and mentally for advanced movement. If we didn't there would be serious injury. That is why we all preach no big drops, condition, progress slowly. We are artificially training something that should come natural to us. We mimic the repetition and conditioning that comes with many years of play.

Animals who don't behave like the others and do not move are looked at by us as sick or mentally impaired. Why do we not look at our lack of movement as unhealthy?

Well, recently we have been in an age where PE classes are being cut and playgrounds are being torn down, we as a people are starting to notice how unhealthy and ridiculous this is. A friend of mine who is a major in microbiology told me that there was a study that children who play at a young age and get dirty, build better immune systems and live healthier and happier lives than those who don't. This is common sense but is something we have sadly forgotten.

In the end David Belle and the other OT's (original traceurs) are nothing special, they are just normal. But they are special in a way because they ignored the system, they continued to move and keep moving despite what others told them. We all need to live with movement in our lives just as all animals do. We are no different than animals and we too have the desire to move and keep healthy but it has been forgotten by us as a species.

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Max Calder
BNP
Georgia Parkour]]> Sat, 10 May 2008 17:35:42 +0200 http://parkour.net/Parkour-Rehabilitating-Human-Movemet-t1005.html Parkour.net and its future! Questions! http://parkour.net/Parkour-net-future-Questions-t1001.html 2 CHANGES MADE IN BOLD!

We all know theres been some problems on here lately, so heres some simple questions I'd love for the members of this site to fill out and answer.
If you don't feel this is something you want to do publicly, feel free to pm me the answers as they are all going to be collected and put together. I would suggest as well not including other peoples names unless you really have to, and if so, PM those answers instead of saying them publicly for your own peace of mind.
These answers could very well determine the future of this site... so be honest, and say what you have to say, because you all have a extremely valuable opinion even though it doesn't seem like it at times. If you want to see change, you have to go about creating it, it's the only way. As so, you guys are the future of this site, not I or anyone else, as users your opinions are our gold!

1. There has been a recent exodus of a lot of members from all around the world. As a member can you see or understand why? Explain. (Exodus means exit)
2. If you could change one thing about this site what would it be?
3. Would you change the rules in any way? Enforce them differently?
4. Have you (or have you see anyone else) ever been offended, felt shut down, or even been treated poorly for your opinion on this site?
5. If you answered #4, (or if you wish to anyways) do you feel at times there is an attitude problem on this site? Explain your answer.
6. Do you think this still remains a positive Parkour site at this point in time? Explain your answer.
7. Very simply in 1-2 sentences, explain what Parkour.net should be in your eyes.
8. Anything else you would love to say would be great and worthwhile.

Thank you so much for your time.
In an effort to make this place a better place, due to a lot of complaints as of late, we are polling your opinion to see what we can do better on here to make it a more enjoyable site to come on and talk about Parkour. (Talking only once your done training of course =P)

To mods/staff! This thread is not for you, your posts will be deleted. Go play somewhere else! haha!]]> Sat, 10 May 2008 08:25:23 +0200 http://parkour.net/Parkour-net-future-Questions-t1001.html parkour in a badly built city, climbing walls that fall down http://parkour.net/parkour-badly-built-city-climbing-walls-fall-t999.html
what i'd like to know is, is there a way to land safely when falling backwards like this

http://parkour.net/index.php?act=attach&type=post&id=62]]> Sat, 10 May 2008 04:40:37 +0200 http://parkour.net/parkour-badly-built-city-climbing-walls-fall-t999.html Obstacles and Opportunities http://parkour.net/Obstacles-Opportunities-t998.html
Figured this section deserved to be released on its own, separate from the rest of the film, for easy access and sharing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qoSl72qiag]]> Fri, 09 May 2008 23:33:27 +0200 http://parkour.net/Obstacles-Opportunities-t998.html Kongs... http://parkour.net/Kongs-t997.html
I do it off two and can get a good 6-7ft on my kong, but some people keep telling me to do it off one

It probably doesn't matter how you do it, but is there a right way?]]> Fri, 09 May 2008 22:35:30 +0200 http://parkour.net/Kongs-t997.html Chinese Tracers http://parkour.net/Chinese-Tracers-t983.html
I'm going on a holiday this summer to china and I would like to practice some parkour over there. But I can't find anyone that could show me some spots and train with me.
I hope some of you can help me to get in touch with some chinese tracers?

Thanx!
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Kymo from the Netherlands]]> Fri, 09 May 2008 12:35:11 +0200 http://parkour.net/Chinese-Tracers-t983.html Pringles Fun Club Interview http://parkour.net/Pringles-Fun-Club-Interview-t978.html http://parkour.net/index.php?act=attach&type=post&id=56

Yamakasi KOREA, one of the biggest group in korea... They using term 'YAMAKASI'

http://parkour.net/index.php?act=attach&type=post&id=57
They insistence 'Yamakasi(=Parkour=Freerunning)'
Yamakasi Korea representer Young Min-Kim (lionbal@hanmail.net)ambition that unification term using 'Yamakasi'.

He hide the real history about parkour. Only talk about group Yamakasi history.

This plan was already pass 5 years.

So, The masses don`t know real meaning of parkour. People misunderstanding parkour similar to B-Boying, Martial Arts Tricks.

Simply, Yamakasi Korea = Urban Free Flow

More seriously, They recommend 'competition'. Training for show.


What can I do? how to prevent this bad things?]]> Fri, 09 May 2008 06:43:53 +0200 http://parkour.net/Pringles-Fun-Club-Interview-t978.html <![CDATA[Ok so I'm new to parkour...]]> http://parkour.net/I-m-parkour-t975.html Ok my friends just got me into parkour, and they have been doing it for a while now.
They all seem to have a lot more muscle than me.
I have a multi gym in my room and could exercise every night.

I was hoping somebody might be able to tell me how I could start to build up my muscle because I'd like to look muscley.
Thanks.
-PKong]]> Thu, 08 May 2008 21:35:04 +0200 http://parkour.net/I-m-parkour-t975.html spam bots, spam messages : help us ! http://parkour.net/spam-bots-spam-messages-t974.html
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Some of you answered to his post. Let me tell you that it's not useful and it doesn't help us wink.gif

You can help us by clicking on this button : . Moderators will be contacted automatically and we'll simply delete the topic and ban the user.

Thank you by advance wink.gif]]> Thu, 08 May 2008 21:20:42 +0200 http://parkour.net/spam-bots-spam-messages-t974.html Dash tip http://parkour.net/Dash-tip-t970.html
Hardness
4/10

what it takes
1.courage
2.jumping
3.strength

1.first if you are ever thinking about doing this move you will have to have courage to do it because it looks scary and is scary first time but its not that hard.
2.first you will need a bit of speed so that you can clear it without mucking up.
3.run to the object and jump but lean a bit back so you can make your hands touch the object
4.push your hands off the object wich will give you a bit of boost so you can make it.
5.then land
6.and there you go a dash try it again and i bet you it wont be as scary cause once you have done this move like 100 times it will be a peace of cake.

Tips
1.do it on something wide like a pinic bench
2.if you are scared try jumping over it it is not as scary or as hard belive me
3.dont try it when its wet incase you hands slip off

good luck

here is a picture of the move]]> Thu, 08 May 2008 16:34:24 +0200 http://parkour.net/Dash-tip-t970.html handstanding http://parkour.net/handstanding-t966.html
How long did it take for you guys to learn or just do a handstand?]]> Thu, 08 May 2008 09:15:26 +0200 http://parkour.net/handstanding-t966.html Real-Life Situations http://parkour.net/Real-Life-Situations-t959.html Wed, 07 May 2008 18:54:37 +0200 http://parkour.net/Real-Life-Situations-t959.html Gate vault http://parkour.net/Gate-vault-t958.html
Some people say that if you can pull yourself to the top (like doing a gate) that you can just as easily and as efficiently do a turn vault and drop. Personally I can't, but anyway I would like to hear people's thoughts on gate vaults.


Youtube link


Like that guy, he's very efficient in that situation. Although i think that gates are never efficient when the obstacle is shorter than you are.]]> Wed, 07 May 2008 18:21:51 +0200 http://parkour.net/Gate-vault-t958.html Leeds Parkour http://parkour.net/Leeds-Parkour-t953.html gimme a shout if your around.
Cheers
CJ]]> Wed, 07 May 2008 11:00:43 +0200 http://parkour.net/Leeds-Parkour-t953.html Le Parkour by David Belle http://parkour.net/Parkour-David-Belle-t947.html I once was bored, so I started translating one of the articles from David Belle's Blog, I did my verry best to make it as accurate and decent as possible, but keep in mind that neither French nor English are my native languages ( and that i still have some french education that i need to run through, i'm only 16 remember ;-) ).
If this has already been translated, i didn't notice.
Special thanks to Takeshi, for reading through it and correcting some words ( you know, some words were kinda rare AND had several translations possible. )
So, here goes:

Influenced by his story, Parkour by DB is a utilitarian sport that leads to the discovery of the world of effort and altruism

Every human physical quality: strength, speed, force, (spring) extension (don’t know if it’s the correct translation, détente = how high you can jump), agility, skill, coordination and balance are explored in Parkour

The practice of Parkour leads the human body to realize physical performances that weren't suspected from it anymore.
Developed by DB and his friends, Parkour adapts itself to any kind of environment though it was

Overcoming obstacles, defeating apprehension, managing stress and everything that can stop us are situations worked on, dissected to not remain blocked by the obstacle.
And with this quest, reflexion, desire, and determination that this practice requires it develops undeniably the needed and indispensable mental qualities to overcome apprehension and keep on moving

The main goal of Parkour is to overcome the obstacle, that is either physical or mental making the practitioner stronger, more agile and more self-confident so he can simply keep on moving without being blocked at the base of the wall.

Hope you enjoy this, if you want any more translations from an interesting Parkour article, feel free to pm me, and i'll see if i can try to translate it, but don't expect uber work like you'd get from native frenchys, but hey, i have time most of the time =P]]> Tue, 06 May 2008 19:46:34 +0200 http://parkour.net/Parkour-David-Belle-t947.html PArkour / free-running book http://parkour.net/PArkour-free-running-book-t943.html
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